PANJIM: A newly formed committee headed by senior journalist and freedom fighter Flaviano Dias has demanded cancellation of Portuguese names designated to several roads, villages and localities and rename the same after national heroes, freedom fighters and eminent personalities loyal to this country and state.
The committee named ‘Goa liberation-50: From Torture to Strength and Progress’ has been formed to chalk-out exhaustive year-long programme to create awareness about Goa’s freedom struggle.
Working president of the committee Subhash Velingkar said, “The demand would be placed before the government. This is not just the demand of this committee but from a section of the society. We will pressurize the government till it comes out with a decision in this regard.”
The committee will also programmes in villages where freedom fighters rebelled against the Portuguese regime. “We want to visit those villages and places where rebellion took place and hold functions there. The aim is to make locals aware about the importance of these places,” he Velingkar mentioned. “If possible, we will felicitate freedom fighters who participated in the rebellion of their respective villages,” he added.
The committee’s year-long programmes will commence from February 20 at Kala Academy where Goa’s first martyr Bala Raya Mapari, who died on February 18, 1955, will be remembered. The inaugural would also see release of special issues based on various historical aspects of Goa’s freedom struggle.
“The 6th volume of prestigious ‘Vishwa Charitra Kosh’ would also be released on the occasion,” Velingkar informed. Apart from this, the committee would also pay gratitude to six freedom fighters – Prabhakar Sinari, Nagesh Karmali, Verissimo Coutinho, Madhukar Mordekar, Chandrakant Kenkre and Flaviano Dias.
“This is not felicitation but an act to convey that we are indebted to these brave hearts,” Velingkar stated. The committee with its 600 volunteers is aiming to associate with around 250 organizations for the entire programme
73 comments:
Flaviano Dias is ba****d! Let alone change the old portuguese names there should be a statue of Vassalo e Silva at Panjim,Mapusa,Margao and Calangute..besides all structures and names associated with Dayanand Bandodkar should be torn down...and not to mention the complete expulsion of people like Karmali,Dias and Velingkar from our Golden Goa.
FLAVIANO DIAS' head should be hanging from a tall pole for bringing misery to the lives of Goans, Why is his name still Flaviano Dias? He should change it to Ghanti Mama.
Change your #@$%% Portuguese Name first, Idiot-Mr Flaviano Dias!!! These idiots have nothing better to do with their time? This just shows how stupid these people are, and they are going to destoy us. These are the traitors that sold Goa to India. Lets look at the facts as there are! Why should we be scared of India...it may be powerful but we need to save ourselves. We have spies like these Portuguese named FF working against us. With all the crime in Goa, these idiots are working as agents of the dominant Indian government to destroy us and our Goa. Enough damage has been done to us and OUR Goa in the last 50 years, can we allow another 50 years??? We are going to be finished, including this Portuguese named donkey will be kicked out!!! These FF think they are powerful because they have the Indian government on their side, that is why they are traitors of Goa!!!! Agents working for the Indian government!!!!!!!
P.s. I am proud of my Portuguese name and so are many Goans! We can't go backwards! Be it Hindu, Christian or Muslim we are Goans first!!!
Trevor bravo, you have hit the nail right on the correct spot. FLAVIANO DIAS is a PURE PORTUGUESE name. First of all Flaviano Dias should change his name and then go around changing the street names. As you know Nagues Karmali was caught by mistake by the portuguese police and now draws a huge pension and salary as a dirt bag FF, Kenkre and Flaviano same thing. IF THESE IDIOTS ARE PAID FOR THEIR SERVICES THEN WHY DO THEY CONSIDER THEMSELVES AS freedom fighters?
The Freedom Farter Flaviano Dias is himself a filthy idiot. I am sure that quite a lot of his family members are holding Portuguese Nationality else I challenge all these freedom farters to say no to this allegation of mine. When I mean all I mean all christians as well as hindus. I challenge them to deny this.
Trevor India is only powerful against the Goans. They can do nothing to the Pakistanis who are occupying more than half of Kashmir, they can do nothing to the Chinese who are also occupying Indian territories. They can only bully us Goans. Parmeshwara I do not know what to say.
FREEDOM FIGHTERS?? These free loaders have enjoyed their perks through the Goan Tax payers money. If they have been paid for their services, then they were either mercenaries or spies and not Freedom Fighters as they claim. They should be tried for espionage by true Goans, Why do they still use their Pre-Invasion names?.
I am proud to be a Goan Hindu but not an Indian. Goa is my country and not India. India Invasion has brought misery to our family life and created Goa the garbage collector of all the Ghantis. So Flavia Diasht drown yourself in the Ghanti's sewer.
@ Shyam...Thanks...sorry I lost it. I guess, next these idiots are then going to tear down all the Portuguese buildings?....they should start with the palace the Governor is living in! Would someone give these people an education? They are paid AGENTS of the Indian government! Spies working for Delhi, to prevent us from, getting our Independence. We need to rise up against them. Please throw these TRAITORS out when they show up in your village.
The so called 6 freedom fighters should be packed in sack and drowned ii the river Mandovi. These idiots do not have anything to do, so they are digging the past graves.The b###t##ds should give thanks to Dr Antonio Salazar for his generousity for allowing Portuguese Nationality.These bunch of idiots should open their eyes and see how many Goans benefited from Portuguese passport and live a decent life in Europe. I call these idiots as LOCAL GHANTTIS.
I think we need to contact Narana Coissoro and complain to the portuguese govt...as per the treaty signed between Soares and the indian b*****d they are not legally allowed to effect such changes...
I wonder what are Narana Coissoro's thoughts on Goa ? and being such an imposing personality in Portugal of Goan origin im sure he can pull some strings...
@Neil, Narana Coissoro (Narain Koisuro) is from Ponda and speaks good Konkani as well. A few years back he was in Goa and he had assured any Goans who has any grieviences should come to him and he will attend to them. If somebody can provide an email ID or his address in Portugal we could write to him. I know all this because he is my relation
@Sandhya : Im trying my best to get in touch with this great son of Goa since awhile and have even asked my contacts in Portugal to try their best in this regard...but he is not a commoner whom i can meet even if fly to Portugal as he is veteran Portuguese politician...what i wanted to know is what are his views on our cause ? But having said that it is indeed positive to hear from you that he has extended his helping hand to his fellow brethren (goans)
This maha fakir Flaviano should change his own name first as it sounds Portuguese and then change the names of different streets like Shiv Sena did in Bombay. These Freedole Farters has no other business rather than to make noise and survive.
Tell that Flaviano Dias to change his name first to Krishna Menon and that of his children (if he has any), to Naguesh Mono.
Yes Subash you are right, this Flaviano bas...td should first change his name to some ghanti name and then come forward.These are not FF they are paid agent of Indian and Goa Govt. When someone takes monthly pension they are not called FF rather fu...in under hand agent to create commotion among peace loving citizian. First of all brought misery to Goan's and now they are out to disturb tranquility among people. Peace loving Goan's please,when they visit to your respective villages greet them with COW DUNG idiot's ruscals. I am sure Goa traitor Govt must have paid additional dols to these old donkeys to do all this. These people are traitors and not FF. Theys should have been pushed into the sea when last time they had gone for purification from Sagres visit to Goa at Khariawado. Time has riped to go for Goa as seperate Country. What Chandrakant said is a fact, India can play with small Country like Goa, I challenge these so called f...k...in FF to pressurize Indian Govt. to go and take back Occuped Kashmir from pakistan and Arunachal from China. I love my Country Goa, with head high proud to be Goan.
What freedom have these B---ards brought to Goa. Can you leave your doors open during the Day time? If you do the Ghantis will come and rob you. Me as a proud Goan I say Flavianosht is a disgrace to Goan society. He is a traitor to all Goans, the only people that will entertain these people are crumb eaters. Many of these so called FFs families are involved in criminal activities.
Salvador Seraulim said...
We had one so called freedom fighter in Seraulim Fabiao whose son is a criminal for hire, molesting women, armed robbery. land grabbing you name the crimes he has done it. Before Fabiao passed away we stated that this is not the freedom he fought for, Meaning the current political mess Goa is in, but what did he do to correct it Nothing. What are the other Freedom fighters doing about it Nothing but are reaping tax payers for the perks they and their family are receiving, for letting the Invasion of Goa. The must be hanged as traitors.
@Flaviano Dias, like most of em said here, remove the dirt from your eye before you try to clear someone else’s... I guess after changing the names of all the Villages and Streets, their next agenda would be to tear down all the Churches and Buildings, next all the Christians have to Convert to any other Indian Religion of their choice, so Goa becomes 100% Indian.... rite Flaviano... Bravo my Friend, I have only 1 big Question to all you a$$h|e's what ever happened to the Modern Day Freedom Fighters that fought to give Goa Statehood, To Give Goa its Konkani and not Marathi... I think those were the real heroes, from my Grandparents and Parents who lived the entire Portuguese era, only have good Stories to tell about their occupation here, I’m from the South of Goa, and in my Area during my folks time the Paklays were all over the place, they all lived peacefully and felt secure, can you today keep you House open in your own Village and Visit a Neighbor without your house being robbed? No! Fight the Rapes, The Drug Lords, The Ghatis, The Dirty Politicians, that’s being more of a Freedom Fighter then wasting your time and energy for bullshit... My Gran always said "An Ideal Mind is a Devil’s Workshop" so rightly quoted! If this ever is going to Happen, All Goenkars Stand United against it!
Goa was known by many names such as Gomanta, Gomanchala, Gopakapattam, Gopakapuri, Govapuri, Govem, and Gomantak, wonder which of these names is on the Agenda of the Freedom Fighters to choose from, cause i'm pretty sure very soon they will want to change the name of Goa too....
Who is this Flaviano?His talks are rubbish.He does not know what he is talking.You chnge your name first and go and settle in Maharashtra or Karnataka.We dont need people like you in Goa.
Flaviano Dias ,i think the non- goans must have given you'll the so called "looters-freedom fighters" the idea of changing names of our Goans villages ,streets , localities because they might be finding the names strange and pronouncing difficult ,you might be paving the way for the migrants easy entry in Goa so that they can rename our "vados" as "nagars" dont you have any better way of improving the condition of Goa , there is rampant corruption , migrants are comming in large numbers very soon they will outnumber the Goans and demand for Hindi also to be used in communications if we do not keep a check they will contest elections and might get elected with the migrants support , what have you'll done for the development of Konkani, you so called idiots freedom fighters ,instead of doing all these nonsense demand Jobs for locals in Konkan Railways, Goa Shipyard , MPT and other private organisation who employ non goans in large numbers , keep a check on our forefathers land which the Indian Navy is trying to grab our future generations can utilise it, this is not a proper way to protect our State from the second invasion by migrants you fools freedom fighters , you'll are behaving like donkeys , without brains , let us cherish the history of Goa , you'll brainless freedom fighters cannot impose your ideas on the Goans let the Goans decide what they want. Goans are certainly capable people and have prospered wherever they have gone , why are these migrants labelling us as lazy , good for nothing , drunkards and you'll freedom fighters are accepting it, ask any person outside Goa and you will hear that Goa is famous for booze. Let us change our image.
Let the dirt bag freedom farter Flaviano Dias change his name to Fakirappa Durgappadas. This is an Indian name that should suite him better, Kenkre can change it to Kenkorappa, Kamali can change it to Karmappa, Sinari to Sinariappa.
I would like to ask Flaviano Dias: WHY HAVE YOU RETAINED YOUR PORTUGUESE NAME TILL NOW? Mr. Shirodkar has given you a new name that will go well with you. use it and rename yourself so also the other so called freedom fighters who are drawing free pension at the cost of the public are hereby advised to do the same. Names have been designed for you by Mr. Shirodkar.
Instead of concentrating on the present state of corruption in the Indian as well as Goan soil, these mother f….kers are trying to change the name of the streets and villages. Why cannot they change their own and their family’s name to some Utappa or Kutty or Gujjubai so that they can fit in their own craft instead of paddling with others. Time and again these are the same rogues who try to provoke us on this blog with different names and now since they did not succeed in their venture, they are now on the street to get hold and fool the common people. Hope someone teaches them the right lesson for standing to their foolish & selfish demands.
Dear Goans
This article was shown to me by my good friend Mr Jake Mascarenhas, reading Hermant's and other comments I had to say a few words without being biasd.. I vouch that Goans are the most honest , Intellectual and socially friendliest people I have come across among Asians. Most Ugandans never classed Goans as Indians. Dada Idi Amin expelled Indians from Uganda because of their conniving ways unfortunately Goans were caught in the cross fire. Civil servants being Goans were asked to stay as a reward their honesty . The root cause of Uganda's economical downfall were the crocked Indians.Uganda too has its corrupt ministers and If God forbids I will be elected to Ugandan Parliament to fight corruption.
Dr Bwanika
Karamoja region parish, Uganda
http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg08251.html
Some of you are very right, these "False FF's" should first work on destroying all Portuguese heritage buildings that Invader Indians are possessing-
These FFF's should go and count all the Nagers that are popping up in Goa, They should go and count all the Vote Bank Basties in Goa. They should count all the Fields that are destroyed through buildings projects. They should go and count all the BAILO people doing business in our bazaars. They should go and count all the Gutters which are produced by the Government of GOA. They should go and count all the corrupt Police men who are harassing the common people on behalf of the Government.
There are small streets between 18th June road and M. G. Road where these lanes are used for businesses, to repair cars and 2 Wheelers. How can public roads be used for such illegal businesses?, without the Ministers getting a cut back through the Goa Police, this would never be possible. Our public beaches are also sold to private investors through our Minister, our Forefathers fields are being destroyed for Invader Indians. Our more then 100 + Years old trees are being cut to make place for more Gatties.
All this and more the FFF's can't see, the only reason because these FFF's are responsible for all ill that's happening in Goa.
When we have a true peoples Government in Goa, we should put all traitors behind bars for treason, first come first served, you FLAVIANO DIAS will be the first, next will follow as no one will be spared.
All fields that are destroyed will be made one day into fields again, all fields that are made into building complexes will be made one day into FOOTBALL GROUNDS, so GATTIES think twice before buying any houses or Apartments in our holy Fields.
A committee led by Flaviano Dias has suggested cancellation of Portuguese names designating several roads and localities. Why doesn't Flaviano change his own name first? And if he is a married man, with a family, will he tell us what names he has given his children?
There are many roads named after Goans, niz Goenkars with Portuguese names. Are these also to be cancelled? The committee owes it to us Goans to explain clearly their stand.
It is proposed to rename the roads with names of national heroes and eminent personalities loyal to the state. There are many heroes and eminent personalities, not just post "liberation", but even pre-"liberation", who were loyal to their Goa, many of them lovingly calling it "nossa terra". They worked wholeheartedly for the welfare of Goa and Goans, even suffering the "displeasure" of the Portuguese rulers. But they never cried for doles. They should be given due recognition.
Flaviano, please explain how you have qualified to be a "freedom" fighter so that people may know you better. I hope you were not "caught by mistake" by the Portuguese police or as a criminal, only to come out of jail as a "free dole-pocketing" freedom fighter, like that robber of his bhatkar's coconuts.
I certainly agree with Trevor that, whether we are Hindu, Christian or Muslim, we are Goans - niz Goenkars - first.
Why doesn't this arsehole Flaviano Dias change his name??? It is a Portuguese name. Let him change his name first and show he means business. We Goans will take one thing at a time. If he wants his name from his original Portuguese name, I have plenty of names for him. Hello Flaviano, the crumb eater, just send me a message and I will send you a big list of names that will befit you monkey.
Do the Chinese,Burmese etc name their streets after the Japanese invaders ? Then why do you Goans want to patronise the portuguese who raped and killed your ancestors ? This behaviour is shameful...but what is more disgusting is that i see some brainwashed hindus who are supporting such a move...arent you goans at least a bit grateful to India who gave you guys freedom and saved you from that Governor Silva who wanted to burn every Goan alive...if it wasnt for our Indian brave soldiers who rescued you guys...not a single one of you would be talking too much today...and yes goa is part of India and always has been so any Indian can buy land any way in Goa and no one can dare stop him....
Joaquim Correia-Afonso...
Yes, of course! Nossa terra, linda terra, filha de Portugal! And I take pride in saying that because I don't behave like these ghanttis and fake freedom fighters. I would like to hear from Flaviano exactly what he did to fight for freedom. I want details. Then only I will consider thinking otherwise. Following this monkey's statement, plenty of freedom fighters will surface now for a free dole.
Balls Hemendra Patel, your soldiers are not brave but bullies otherwise they would have evicted out the Pakistanis from Kashmir and Chinese from Arunachal Pradesh. Do not talk rubbish about the honourable man Vassalo Silva. He loved Goa and Goans and never did any harm to Goans and for that he had to suffer poor fellow. Your so called brave soldiers did not rescue us but with the help of the Freedom Farters of Goa raped our women and killed them. Just because I am a hindu I will not side with dumbs like you. The real fact is that the Portuguese were good and the Indians have looted us and by force grabbed away our land but now we are not going to give an inch of our land to the Indian animals. If you have guts come and buy here let us see. Do not try to ignite communalism here in Goa. We the Hindus, Christians and Muslims of Goa know what is right and what is wrong
@ Goans like Sardesai etc http://www.goaholidayhomes.com/property-for-sale-in-goa.php
You see i can buy land in Goa at will because it is a state in my country India...so lets see what you Goans can do about it...of course out of mercy the Indian Govt has given you guys the option of going to portugal...so why dont you goans specially Sardesai leave and burn candles at that Governor Silva's grave..the very person who wanted to destroy you guys...tell me if he was so good then why did the Goans want to kick him out of Goa ? i dare anyone to reply me...
Thank you Mr. Sardesai...
These stoogies of the current chors, appearing under different disguises, are trying to distract us Niz Goenkars from fighting for our beloved Goa. Let us stick to our cause of making our Goa what she was before by fighting these current chors who are also the sons of Goa but are betrayers. I don't think they have drunk their mother's milk.
Mr Hemendra Patel, you are also a ghantti and I hope and pray that you come down to Goa and buy the property and then you can go back and light candles on the graves of Nehru and Menon who are your ars...h...le heroes. You do not tell us what to do. We are first Goans and then Hindus, Muslims and Catholics. You get lost from our midst. Better still you can clean the a...se of Flaviano Dias the freedom farter. Well said Abhay Sardesai do not worry we are with you as now Hemendra Patel is going to do some service to the freedom farter Flaviano Dias
Flaviano dias you are an Ar****le. There are a lot of real genuine issues that need to be set right, but why you do not ever utter a word against the corruption by 40 chors, who are hell bent on pillaging goa, the police who sell confiscated drugs, the custodial deaths, the ghantti influx, mega projects & golf courses at the cost of goans or the garbage problems all over goa.
YOu are not fit to be called flaviano, change your name and dont expect any respect from us, we hate you for your stupidity. YOu are a disgrace to goa and goans. All you want to do is please your politicasl masters for more dole. Is this the sort of freedom you envisioned? Shame on you and be cursed.
@ Invader Hemendra Patel, alias indian chor
I feel sorry for you, you think you low standard Indians have liberated us, (you Invaded us) you think once you have invaded us you can rape us the way you like. What pleasure do you low class brainless Indian have in building complexes in our holy fields where we for centuries grew food. (Ask your conscience if you have one)
India should show it's strength in China, stupid ignorant Indians thought after fighting the Portuguese these stupid low class ignorant Indians thought they could fight China, China took the whole of Arunachal Pradesh and a small chunk from Kashmir. Please show that you low class no brains Indians have the balls to fight the Chinese. If the low class brainless ill mannered Indians will do that, then the next day India will be the colony of the Chinese. (Did you know that, that is the main reason why the coward Indians are not fighting the CHINESE)
Goa is and always be the state of PORTUGAL, Goan Citizens still and will always posses the European Passport. (So do the freedom fighters and their families) We Goans all over the world are pumping Billions of dollars + / - in the Indian Economy, where you see the Indian ministers take our money and dump it in the Swiss Banks, you can surely call it, that's recycling as all the money that comes to Goa comes from Europe or the USA, all this money goes to Europe through the Swiss / Luxemburg / Lichtenstein Bank.
By the way to all Idiots who think that Goa is small and can be eaten by Bully invader India. Switzerland is 3+ times larger then Goa with 4 different respected languages, Luxemburg is a little bigger then Goa with two languages, best of all Lichtenstein is a little smaller then TALEIGAO and still a rich country with a Football team that's a pride of Lichtenstein.
We are proud to be Goans, but feel ashamed to be called Indians. (To all Idiots who consider us Indians)
Today nearly all are frustrated with the Congress Government, the Indians and it's Banggi + Ghantti Citizens in Goa, (besides the Freedom or Freedole fighters) I wonder which Village would ever like to be related or feel they are Indians. That would not really surprise me when the Freedole fighters would think that the Nagers are villages to be renamed!!
If a gallop pole is taken tomorrow then 90% of all educated citizens of India would like that the Britisher's rule them again, they are fed up of the congress rule in India.
Gandhi would have himself invited the Britisher's to come and rule them again, the very fact he fasted even after the Britisher's left India. He was shot dead after he broke his fast with a glass of orange juice. Nataram Godse was a scapegoat, Nehru profited much, he could go ransacking and robbing other states. The adventure he had in Goa brought bad luck to us but Good luck to his low class Indians, the adventure in China did cost him a lot. Nehru is also the sole reason why the Tibetans are a colony and unhappy today.
Mr Patel and your clan please leave Goa we don't like your type on this land. Go cause mayhem in Gujarat, RAPE your land not Goa. The day you can't do business anymore you will sell your mother's and sisters to the highest bid.
Your clan is know all over the world. In East Africa, milked the country of every penny you could get out of the country. When you couldn't get the penny's out, you smuggled it out with hard foreign currency, Gold and Diamonds. Your type corrupted a whole nation of young Africans into your way of accepting bribes for any legal work that needed to be carried out. “This is your Loyalty to a Nation that made you Rich & Prosperous”
The so called Freedom Fighters should go round all the government offices first and pour their cleansing water to purify these offices in order to eradicate their corruption manner they currently operate.
What a load of trash we Goan’s have in our midst.
Pedro, you said it right. This hemant has a frozen brain, all he talks about goa. He should be proud of india, the way the cheatings and looting go on, the murders in the name of religions, the biggest scams, etc. Its the law of the jungle, the central goverment has no will or determination to set things right. This lawlessness us the source of his roots
Hemendra Patel if that is who you are. Do you know there are more Guajarati’s and other Indians in Portugal than there are Goans? They go by Christian names; many who were not part of the Portuguese colonies have deceived their way in by forging their birth certificate to Goan Christian names. One would think being Hindus they would use Goan Hindu names. Good luck to those Indians going abroad to better their family’s lives away from the Indian curse. The invasion of Goa was the greatest curse the Indians bestowed upon Goa Daman & Diu. Rapes and murders followed unchallenged. Many Indians have sown their seeds of corruption all over the world.
Here is an extract of Dr Bwanika’s comment for an other article today.
Dr Bwanika said...
Dear Goans
This article was shown to me by my good friend Mr Jake Mascarenhas, reading Hermant's and other comments I had to say a few words without being biasd.. I vouch that Goans are the most honest , Intellectual and socially friendliest people I have come across among Asians. Most Ugandans never classed Goans as Indians. Dada Idi Amin expelled Indians from Uganda because of their conniving ways unfortunately Goans were caught in the cross fire. Civil servants being Goans were asked to stay as a reward their honesty . The root cause of Uganda's economical downfall were the crocked Indians.Uganda too has its corrupt ministers and If God forbids I will be elected to Ugandan Parliament to fight corruption.
Dr Bwanika
Karamoja region parish, Uganda
Ron Metha has hammered it! In the late 80's and early 90's it was the Gujus who bribed the authorities in Daman and Due for fake domicile certificates to make their way to Portugal. I know this for a fact , it was then later that the Portuguese high commission made sure that the all certificates were translated and authenticated by notaries as well as the foreign office. It was these people who dashed their way to Portugal in the name of Goans or Damanese or people from Due. Even today they are majority
@Joaquim Correia-Afonso, a great writer from Goa, welcome to the site. Hope you will contribute with your valuable articles. DLP, welcome back from Mars after hibernation.
Gandhi and Nehru were the biggest Bas"*+%ds of all time - next to them are our Freedole Fighters.
All Education system in the subcontinent of India were run by missionaries with Latin names. Let it be the Don Bosco's, let it be the St. Josephs, St. Xavier's and so on. Now which idiots would like to change the names of these Institution to HINDU names? nothing against Hindu name, It's part of our culture.
Now tell me idiot will you also change the names of these schools and institution that gave you first Education and then Respect which comes along with Education that too in Portuguese or in the English language.
While taking Independence from Britain, did these fools think of our education, it was due to these missionary schools that the education system was kept alive. If not for the missionary schools we would all be like the Baiyas.
Today whatever we are, we owe a lot to the Portuguese and the Britisher's and NOT to THESE Bas%"*#t's who think they made us free. These BAS@#°``T's made us SLAVES of TIME.
@ Thanks Dr Bwanika for your comments. Goans loved Africa and even had one of their own fight for Independence for Kenya and paid with his life - Mr Gama Pinto.
@ Mr Patel, I don't expect you to know that, as you people are interested in is Money. As yourself one question "Why is it that every country you people go to in the world, you all are hated and the natives want to kick you all out??? I hope that might explain why we don't want you all in Goa...we have exceeded our quota by 10 fold diluting us Goans and outnumbering us in some places 3 to 1. You Indians have all the jobs in Goa. Our young people can't get hired as they don't have the dirty hafta – you know the dirty indian system - or because they are not truly Indians like you. As for facts on our INVASION, and we need to call it for what is was, you all have rewritten the facts with your propaganda. Our people who lived in Goa at the time of the INVASION have spoken the truth of what occurred. Their first hand accounts are much too truthful compared the propaganda the Indian government came up to glorify themselves, with some still to collect free dole. This propaganda is now being taught in school but Goan parents have taught their children what really happened…… Please, it would help you and all your friends and family do not come down to settle on land. Goa belongs to us. IF you tell us where you live, will also make it point also not to come live in your place and I guarantee you, you won't be seeing anyone from Goa going to your place. Please stop reading the propaganda so called history books you have and listen the people that lived during that time. However avoid the Agents – Freedole Farters that work for Delhi as they have been asked to perpetrate and brainwash the same propaganda. Please get your facts right before you try to debate you or you will be ignored! So which hotel/motel do you own?
Viva Goa!
We will return to Portugal. This is our birthright and no one can stop us. Viva Goa e Portugal
Hemandra Patel , it is a well known fact that you being a Gujrathi , and a native of Gujrath whose Chief Minister is Narendra Modi , is of communal mindset, your State is known for its communal intolerance , they have taken every opportunity to attack the minorities, now you wish to spread the communal tentacles to other parts of India especially to Goa , it is better if you purify yourself by these so called freedom fighters of Goa in the Arabian Sea of your communal mindset and be human, you are talking as though you have written History thesis of Goa, what are your credentials you illiterate person, supporter of RSS, you'll are notorious for cheating & bullying people in business , you'll worship money and treat your wifes as commodities ,Goa is know for its communal harmony through centuries even under Portuguese rule .
Dalia....
No news from you. Are you still in Portugal or in Germany? When are you returning back to Goa???
Where is our great composer and poet these days??
Mr. Joao! Where are you??? Hope all is well and hope to see you on the forum. Take care and God Bless!
This Hemendra Patel is nothing but an ass…hole. These type of people are allergic to the affect of the truth that is being spilled out one by one by the Niz Goenkar. These type of people should be called PMS - Pissy Mood Sydrome.
You idot Indian dog Hemendra Patel, I suggest you better buzz-off from this site. You are only provoking us in giving you bad words. You have already sold your mother, wife and daughters to this so-called chor politicians to get your share of booty from them to buy the house and land in Goa. Why don’t you go to other Indian states and mouth piece your courage and dedication to the Indians rulers? Please note that we all Goans irrespective of caste, creed and religion are united and no one can take it from us. If your knowledge takes you back in the instance when the whole of India was burning with riots and killing during the demolition of Babri Mosque, not even a pin fell on the ground in Goa against this incident and Goa was peaceful and will always remain the same. Finally I would like to remind you that time will come for you all to pack up your bags and go away to your native place because just for the records this has happened once somewhere in the 1970s in the Port town of Vasco-da-Gama , where due to some disagreement between the Goans & UP workers (Bhayas), there was an uproar in the whole city and the Vascoites with the help of some of the salcete citizens, these Ghantis were bluntly removed from their houses, trains and bitten to death and never allowed to flee from Goa and they were pleading for their lives. So BEWARE.. don’t take us so lightly in WHAT YOU DO AND TAKE MY ADVISE PACK YOU BAGS AND GO AWAY BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. IT IS UPTO YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT. VIVA GOA.
Hemandra Patel --- You R right with your views & in line with your freedom of speech. You should go a step further & claim that China also is a part of India (what happened in 1962 should have happened on 19/12/61) why you let Bangladesh not to be part of India ? after invasion ? You only have greatness of cricket to talk about where Bangladesh screwed your happiness in the last world cup & they will do it again , just watch.
As regards Goa - because of idiots like you our goan people are deprived of jobs in Goa. This situation will not continue for long. Just watch. In US you people are tide with ankle bands. Potachea - In Goa we will put the same in your necks.
Bravo, Well said Buyarantlo Monis.
Goans are loved and respected all over the world.Goans are not illmannered like rest of Indians. We Goans are honest and hardworking people and not a burden to ohters, that is because of our special gene. The people like Hermandra Patel and rest of Gujjus are highly despised people in United Kingdom as they are only interested in operating shops in each and every corner and cheat the people.
Thank you Dr Bwanika of karamoja, Uganda for knowing the vast differnce between a GOAN and INDIAN GHANTTIS.
FLAVIANO DICKS' --- statue should be erected in Baina. who is this idiot.
Can some one dig into who this peice of shit is, where he comes from and what he does. And as some one said.. if he/his relatives, children has portugues passports? If so must be licking.... in UK. Sorry folks, if he is brain-less what can come out him.. rest of his also must be licking. Oh not to forget he must be going to church (Portuguese build)in fact he should go to church and pary more for he has lot of time - useless MF. For any way goa and goans need lot of prayes for his sins of 'liberating' us...
Hemendra Patel you second class citizen of liberated goa. shut up and let the goans talk. can't you get it that you are not accepted on this forum. OF course you can stay and enjoy the best of goa, it was liberated for RATS like you to come and stay. And do not worry about who wnated to kill and burn us. For we live in present and worried which guys like you will plunder us.
@ Hemendra Patel.
Let me tell you from what you write, you are a FAKE!
You do not have any guts nor brains. You have no educational status and you do not know to write in the English language.
In the first place, Who has named places in Goa after Nehru, Tilak, Rajenrda Prasad, Gandhi, etc., etc. Are these not Indians who have no connection with Goans but still, have named Goan places after them??
Secondly, you are totally ignorant of history. Governor Vassalo da Silva did not want, nor did he burn Goa. I’m not here to teach history to mentally retarded like you, so learn history by yourself.
Third, You do not even know from which year India started existing. During British rule it was British India. Prior to that, it was Empires and Kingdoms.
Fourth, no Goan has kicked Gov. Gen. Vassalo da Silva out of Goa. Your ignorance in all fields of life qualify you as a school dropout. So, just because the Indian government has taught you to read 10 words and write 10 words you do not become literate. You just qualify among the unqualified as a broker for the builders . So, go back to the slum where you belong.
@Homodra Patel : Dont preach to us about your Gujurati DANCE BAR culture, we know that you guys are whore mongers as you guys just lack class unlike us Goans who are respected world wide as Professors,writes,lawyers etc.
Dr.Narana Coissoro is one such example..who is a Goan Hindu and a member of Parliament in Portugal,Keith Vaz,Julio Ribeiro,Rajdeep Sardesai,Hema Sardesai ..the list could go on and on...so now dont waste our time and leave us in peace.
Why no response to any of the commentators from Flaviano, the so-called Dias, with a Portuguese Surname???? Shiting in your pants and regretting for opening your mouth the size of your ar...hole??? My friend, fight for your motherland where you are being fed. Don't become the slave of these Judas'es.
The so called freedom fighters of Goa did nothing for the liberation of Goa. Goa was liberated at the behest of late Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru. Our cabinet ministers pamper the freedom fighters without verifying their credentials. The streets in Goa were named after prominent Goans that were born and brought up in Goa, and not Portugal. Why should their names be removed? For example, the Lohia maidan in Margao is named after a man called Lohia, who is not a Goan. Why should the maidan be named after an outsider? I could demand that the government removes his name and rename the maidan after Dr Jack Sequeira, who saved Goa from the clutches of Maharashtra. There are many other issues other than merely removing names from the streets, pertaining to Goa.
Well said Alemao M.
First of all GOA was INVADED not Liberated, I'd punish myself even if I had said this in my dream.
Gandhi, Nehru, Ambedkar and other Indian leaders have nothing to do with GOA, these names should be deleted from any Institution or roads named after them.
Bandorkar was a traitor. His name and statue should be first erased form the face of GOA.
these super rich gujrathi ganthis should be thrown out of goa
we have sent money from abroad and our wives have purcased tiles hardware paint an everything from this ganthis same money they are using against us
ek gujrathi souw (100) bhimary (sickness)
dont cooperate with ganthis they will starve to death
let us all try it
gavawala
We should have an Opinion Poll "if we want to retain all Portuguese name for Roads, Buildings and Villages" with a simple yes or no.
This will clear the minds of every one, and in future no one will bother us. The same way the Opinion pole of the 1967 where our parents said yes to stay separate from the rest of the UNION of INDIA. If not for that Opinion pole till today there would be some idiots who would like us to be a state integrated with God knows what state, for E:G. as there are lot of Karnataka's some would say Goa belongs to Karnataka, they would even go further to say as there are lot's of Biharies, let's join BIHAR our BAIYAS and so on. For MGP Maharashtra would always be an open option. Thanks to the opinion pole we don't have this problem anymore.
Our Problem with some crooks like Flaviano and some crooked Freedole Farters, they will always come up with this topics regarding names. WE have to have an Opinion Pole to solve and stop this nuisance once and for all. After that we can have an Opinion Pole for an Independent GOA: Step by Step.
Mog asundi
Pedro--- Mr. Flaviano has been taken care off-- so also his future generation. I mean groundwork has been done. He will have to change his sex . send his wife & daughters (if any even illegimate) into prostitution.
Potacheak hanv Dakoitav
Dear Mr Pedro, --- Nothing to worry .. no names will be changed... who is this peice of shit mr Flavinao ? only thing that will change is Flavino's addredd from Earth to Hell ... that is for sure...
My Fellow Goenkar Bhavs, please don't get agitated and triggered by this so called dog "Hemendra Patel", like the old folks rightly said, "If a Dog Barks, let it Bark, cause the more you tell it to shut up the more it will Bark" so let him bark, just ignore him... the more we reply and respond to him, he gets an upper hand, the more we ignore him, he'll die in his own piss.... that Ignorant fool!
Hi DLP, Its always good to see your face. Haven't seen N.Fernandes and Bebdo for a while. As for me I am doing 12 hour shift plus losing 2 hours on both ends and after the day is done I am too tired but I make it a point to read Niz Goenkar and keep myself up to date with the news. Mr. Flaviano will not reply as I think he is confused after reading so many comments contrary to his demands. Like Pedro said we should have an opinion poll "yes or no" on this issue. Off to work. Mog assundi.
MOST OF THESE SO-CALLED FREEDOM FIGHTERS ARE NOT FREEDOM FIGHTERS BUT PENSION FIGHTERS.THEY AND THEIR KIN ARE UNFIT TO EARN THEIR DAILY BREAD SO ARE BEGGING WITH THE GOVT. OFF-COURSE THERE ARE A FEW GENUINE FREEDOM FIGHTERS WHO DESERVE ALL THE BENEFITS AND A LOT MORE BUT THEY NEVER EVEN ASK. ONLY THESE BEGGARS WHO WERE ACTUALLY PUT IN JAIL FOR CRIMES LIKE ROBBERY PROCLAIMED THEMSELVES FF OVERNIGHT.
SHAME ON THEM-SOME GHANTTIS LIKE VELINGKARS ARE PROJECTING THEM AS OUR SAVIOURS WHEN THEY ARE INFACT PETTY THIEFS.
u biatch hemale, shemale.... Go f*&k urself... These names hae gr8 signifnace to us n bcos of these names Goa earns revenue.. See what happened to Bombay when it was changed to Mumbai... Dont be stupid u idiota... Filiu de puta.... Indians r buying land here bcos u bitch's r busy takin up non issues like these... U eunuchs n ppl like datta palaker only hav time fr this kinda shit... use ur energy n protest against illegal mining... Money power in politics.. u dont have the balls to do so...
Whre is this Hema guy... I think he got a good pounding... Bitch that he is
To Joao:::
I was on a holiday in Switzerland for 2 weeks in February.Also attending a wedding of a very good friend.
I have been back on Niz -goenkar now for the last 2 weeks.Just needed a little time to get back to my routine after my Holiday.
I gather you are working in the Middle East.Take care ,as there is a lot of trouble off and on there.
As for Flaviano, he has been given a new name of Vina GANGADAS by a NG commentor.
I think you are an extremely sick person.Going by your name I suspect you are a Gujarati.You belong to the clan of Patels, who all around the world are known as 10%` ers. (Ten PERCENTERS).This is not a polite term in reference to Patels, but a derogatory one.
Have you ever considered why so many Patels have migrated to Britain and the USA?.Are you aware that all Africans hate you Patels.When you have reasoned out with this question, then you may deal with us Goans and our State.
Why are you unable to but property in Gujarat?It is a far larger / bigger state than Goa.
Are you aware of the corruption levels in the State of Gujarat?...perhaps not as your comment reflects you have a few brain cells missing and escapism to Goa is a better option for you.
WHy don`t you want to develop Gujarat, where the majority of your clan reside? Commonsense must tell you that you will be more at home there than Goa.The culture of Goa and Gujarat are not the same.
Surely Gujarat must be a better place for you.
You may have a Right to reside anywhere in India...but remember you will always be seen a a Guest in any other State, if you are outside Gujarat.You will also never ever be a Niz Goenkar,native or inhabitant of Goa.
No doubt you must travel to Gujarat to visit your homefolks.I say homefolks as that is truly your HOME and not Goa.You are also a member of the famous Patel extended family system.Remember that
While you are in Goa, please ensure you respect our traditions and values.Thise who dont are refered to as GHANTIS.Reading you comment you seem like one.A stateless,nomadic and migratory Citizen, of India
I am certain you have come to Goa, to get better civilized.Please ensure you inculcate as much of this civility we Goans have and are respected for all over the world.
I wonder why this MaN have kept his NAME FLAVIANO DIAS...First Please change that name too!!!
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