tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post1687823650768552656..comments2023-12-19T15:47:27.153+00:00Comments on Niz Goenkar: NIZ GOENKAR WILL WIN GOA'S ASSEMBLY ELECTION THIS TIME SAYS PAUSILIP DOURADO by BebdoNiz Goenkarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04084240231647223618noreply@blogger.comBlogger143125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-71181184699034694922010-12-01T21:41:29.887+00:002010-12-01T21:41:29.887+00:00Mr James D'Silva
Ref your own comments , if y...Mr James D'Silva<br /><br />Ref your own comments , if you are outside Goa you are a Ghanti too. If you are in Goa you are fed by Ali Baba and his forting theives.<br /><br />Camm on man if you are a Niz Goenkar you should not have these filthy thaughts.Buyarantlo Monisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-33124502657545271412010-12-01T21:33:03.478+00:002010-12-01T21:33:03.478+00:00"YOU CAN TAKE A GOAN OUT OF GOA BUT CANNOT TA..."YOU CAN TAKE A GOAN OUT OF GOA BUT CANNOT TAKE GOA OUT OF A GOAN"<br /><br />Very true ; first lets destroy Ali Baba and his forting theives. We can still rectify mistakes of 1961Buyarantlo Monisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-73768700920983956012010-11-14T14:38:09.685+00:002010-11-14T14:38:09.685+00:00The whole episode has been misinterpreted and got ...The whole episode has been misinterpreted and got into a tangled with Goans leaving or working abroad by James D’Silva. I do not understand his motives behind his comments. It is not a toy’s or bedtime story that he intends to interpret in his comments. There are numerous Goans, who have by sear dedication and meticulously planning their future plans have been able to acquire a place aboard by selling everything they possess i.e. mother’s or wife’s ornaments, acquire loans etc., just to survive into this world and it was not a mere serving on a platter. They had to undergo hardship from various corners of living conditions etc., and in spite of facing all these adversities, they have come out successfully and continue to contribute to their mother land State of Goa a mighty hell of their sweat and blood money. I think he is not aware of all these eventful services dedicated to our mother land and this is not wistful thinking. I think he is possessed by envy.franconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-70912715309663345132010-11-14T13:44:17.630+00:002010-11-14T13:44:17.630+00:00To all those who criticise Goans living outside of...To all those who criticise Goans living outside of Goa.<br />Remember this "YOU CAN TAKE A GOAN OUT OF GOA BUT CANNOT TAKE GOA OUT OF A GOAN"<br />This is true figuratively and literallyBebdonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-40315796543634498402010-11-14T11:30:12.959+00:002010-11-14T11:30:12.959+00:00To James d`silva::: here is an exceprt from Selma ...To James d`silva::: here is an exceprt from Selma Cravalho "INTO THE DIASPORA WILDERNESS" to confirm what Jack is trying to tell you.<br />"The British relationship with Goans was as ambivalent as it was evolutionary. They subjected them to all the prejudice they felt towards non-White populations. They never absolved Goans from the indignity of residential segregation, segregated public washrooms, the tacit prohibition against miscegenation or racial inequality on the work front. Yet they valued them tremendously, a relationship based on genuine mutual respect and trust. They were unfailingly described by British Colonial officers as the back-bone of the Civil Service, “people of high quality”, meticulous in their work and devotedly loyal. Sir Noel Anthony Scawen Lytton, 4th Earl of Lytton, who served in the King’s African Rifles in 1922-26, paid tribute to the Goan community: “They occupy in Africa the small places, the places of respect; a first class cook, a care-taker on whom you can absolutely rely on, a bank-cashier upon whom you can absolutely rely on…That is a mark of a not ambitious but rather humble status in life. Nevertheless one of complete integrity and respect. A very good community. They served Kenya very well.”<br /><br />From the Chapter;Chpt: Afrik’kar, Dubai’kar,<br />Goem’kar<br /><br />So James call Goans abroad what you like...but we are still Goans.N Fernandes(London)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-75387068778678492052010-11-14T11:16:49.905+00:002010-11-14T11:16:49.905+00:00To James D`silva::::you might want to read a book ...To James D`silva::::you might want to read a book By Selma Carvalho published recently.<br />An excerpt in this book states the British in East Africa viewed the Goans as different from Indians.It also states they (The Colonial Brits),placed a higher level of trust in Goans.<br />As Jack said....Goans are viewed as different from Indians in the UK by all ethnic communities, including Indians themselves.<br />This is because Goans are more westernised and fit into any society easily.N.fernandes (london)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-85847442280674278032010-11-14T10:54:14.471+00:002010-11-14T10:54:14.471+00:00To James D`silva::::PART "...
"Since ...To James D`silva::::PART "...<br /><br /><br /> "Since "you" live in Margao,and my ancestral origins are from a village(Majorda) & Town (Margao), I guess you will be called a "Townie" and I will be addresses either way...Townie or villager.But I will probably be addressed more as a Villager as that is where I spend most of my time and am happy and proud to be associated with it.<br />As far as Goans living abroad permanently in the UK ,USA, CANADA etc,like me, we are addressed as Immigrants.That is the correct dictionary description.No Goans will deny that they are "not" immigrants to these countries.WE are called Citizens of these countries by naturalisation.<br />Since the Indian Government now allows dual Nationality...many Goans have now accquired this.<br />And if you are not fully aware it is called OCI (overseas citizen of India)or PIO (person of indian orign).These rights have been granted as your so called "UNTRUE GOANS" make huge and vast finiancial contributions to Goa.Perhaps you too are a beneficiary of this in many ways.<br />May I remind you that the indigenous people of The USA & CANADA are the (RED INDIANS).Similarly the Natives of New Zeland /Australia are Aborogines.India itself is a country that has had immigrants(some through invasions) for many centuries from Persia,Central Asian (Asia Minor) etc.Historically the original Indians as per historians are the Aryans & Dravidians.<br />All other groups currently resident in the Countries I have named above are Immigrants.<br />For all I know and care, you too are probably an immigrant in India/Goa.<br /><br />True Goan:A True Goan is a person, who deeply cares for his "motherland /Fatherland regardless of where he lives.Goans that live abroad are no lesser Goan than you.You fail to understand the contributions these Goans abroad, make.Nearly one from every family in Goa, now lives or work abroad.<br />Any Goan boy or girl that travels abroad to make a living, leaving his family behind in Goa, does not mean he has given up a right to be part of that family.So if ever you decide to live apart from your family,do not consider yourself "PRODIGAL".<br />I hope you will correct some of your JAUNDICED AND more often than once silly views.<br />I hope you are fully aware that in other States of India ,Goans are also belittled and addressed / called by negative or derogatory names. <br />Perhaps when you get up from your hole or burrow or den in Margao and go out you may discover it.<br />You might need to see some more BOLLYWOOD movies<br />to see if you are called a "DRUNKARD" by others in India.<br />On a positive ending, I am pleased to note and credit you for your support of Pausilip and looking forward for some change in Goan Politics.<br />I also pray you do not live near Moti Dongor.An explosive,blood letting ,political fuse has been lit there...courtesy of Mr Digamber KAMAT.<br />Please remember, what this "TRUE GOAN" Kamat has said about the Goan Vote.He does not need it...he relys on the Migrants of Monti Dongor. Dongor.I now wonder if he is a True Goan<br />And also remember,many Ration Cards have been unclaimed.So please "assume"...these claimants heve either gone abroad "or" returned to their native lands.N.Fernandes-untrue Goan (London)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-76870690611842254222010-11-14T10:52:09.310+00:002010-11-14T10:52:09.310+00:00To James D`Silva:Thaks for your comment addressed ...To James D`Silva:Thaks for your comment addressed to me.<br />I am not sure if I should be responding, as in retrospect, you seem to fire away unthoughtfull and ill researched comments.You fire away comments,which are usually based on "inner envy" as said by Joe Rebello, and some sort of personal failure, to provoke a response and when it has been responded to, then you agree with them sheepishly and state you stand corrected.<br /><br />As Joe Rebello (Panjim) has said, you also comment on Goa News.I recollect giving you an explainationon one of your half-baked comments and you finally,seeing the true light agreeing with it.<br />I will attempt to explain /dissect some elememts of your comment here.I hope again, it will go some way in correcting your dogmas.<br />1. Ghantis & Outsiders:<br />It is not a term I personally use.However I am aware of the context it is used in.<br />Ghantis is a term, used for many decades by Goans, to describe people who come from outside Goa, are not fully civilized and just cannot intergrate into Goan society.The "outsiders" are not of Goan Origins.They are not culturally or traditionally Goans.They are not patriotic.They are mostly in Goa for economic reasons.<br />However if you prefer and if it will give you a good nights sleep,we can call these people,normally permanently resident outside Goa "tourists" or "Guests .<br />PART 2 TO FOLLOW.....N.Fernandes (London)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-25245550241214482392010-11-14T10:30:32.866+00:002010-11-14T10:30:32.866+00:00To James D'Silva we are in this shit for 50 ye...To James D'Silva we are in this shit for 50 years because of Goans like you. For your information the difference between ghantis and Goans is based of culture. We Goans whether Hindu, Catholic or Muslim are culturally very different then these ghantis who are like Piranhas devouring anything on their path. I hope you and your family will be the first victims when that happens. And as for Goans living abroad, you should welcome their support with both hands so that the present leeches glued to Goa be removed forever.Da Silvanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-78737398568965217912010-11-14T09:40:09.621+00:002010-11-14T09:40:09.621+00:00James D'Silva - I have been to US,UK as well i...James D'Silva - I have been to US,UK as well in all Gulf States and the native there donot call us Indian but Goans, the white people as well Arabs always look Indian in suspicious manner,observing this people of some part of India(Karwari,Manglorean,Gujurati,Delhi) have now identifying themselves as Goans and with thier evil deeds are spoiling name of NIZ GOENKARS.I know your blood relatives are married to Manglorean,Karwaris,Banglorean and that is you want to remove that tag from your neck being called father-in-law of ghanti or that his son/daughter married to ghanti.One day willcome same ghantis might cut & burn you while still alive.As it is their culture...Burn to death,loot etc.Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-87100139197662612142010-11-14T08:45:58.107+00:002010-11-14T08:45:58.107+00:00James D'Siva - You seems born out of meting be...James D'Siva - You seems born out of meting between Dog and human being.I don't understand who was your mother whether Dog & human being.So as you are half Dog & half human being will not understand what we write,how Goans are forced leave their motherland & work outside to support their families in Goa and why Indian coming from Ghat are known as ghanties.A True Goannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-84473813793562536452010-11-14T08:35:26.022+00:002010-11-14T08:35:26.022+00:00Those Goans down in Goa will only realise when the...Those Goans down in Goa will only realise when they are physically thrown out of their homes by the indians and the indian navy. They will try to repent but will be of no use as the law run in the courts is indian law and will not help the Goans, and this James D'Silva should noteSandesh Gaonkarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-33630700220682773832010-11-14T08:25:30.633+00:002010-11-14T08:25:30.633+00:00@James D'Silva I would like to bring to your n...@James D'Silva I would like to bring to your notice one difference that you do not seem to know. You may call us "ghantts" here in UK, USA etc. I think this comes out of your hidden inner feeling of envy. Those migrant indian ghanttis that come to Goa do not go away but grab land and buy houses and settle there permanenently. But your so called Goan ghanttis who have changed their nationalities have at the same time obtained an OCI so that they can come back at the end of their service and live back in Goa. No Goan wants to settle permanently anywhere leaving their beloved Goa. N Fernandes is working here like us and so one day we are going to be back. And tell me which law says that we cannot fight for Goa from here? At least we are doing that, but you being in Goa where all the ground action can be taken have you done anything? I have only seen you pen a few lines on GoaNews. And I think we can work better for Goa from where we are than you can from where you are.Joe Rebello from Panjimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-24568124595104935032010-11-14T06:20:30.201+00:002010-11-14T06:20:30.201+00:00@ N Fernandes - Quote "Indians / Goans who li...@ N Fernandes - Quote "Indians / Goans who live in those so called "far away places" are much better placed to comment on affairs that affect them or their families or relations that still exist in India/Goa."<br /><br />Quote - "Unlike you, these so called faraway Goans /Indians ABROAD, have had the benefit of seeing democratic systems work in other countries,and compare it to how the Indian system works."<br /><br />My comments:<br />You have the freedom to call fellow Indians who come to Goa which belongs to India "Ghanttis" & "outsiders"<br /><br />Can I ask you, what are you people known as ? Do Britishers, Canadians, etc call you "Ghanttis" ? Well, you are indeed "Ghanttis" who live outside Goa and call others who come to Goa as "Ghanttis".<br /><br />Only people who stay in Goa should be called TRUE GOANS and have the right to comment. For them Pausilip is the best. We don't want the so called "Ghantti Goans" staying abroad to interfere in our Goan affairs.<br /><br />If you'll are so interested in Goan affairs please surrender your Portuguese, British, Canadian, etc passports and settle down in your beloved Goa and then talk. <br /><br />Sons of Goa(who stay in Goa only), we need to kick out these pimps who are in power today. Please lend all your support to our new leader Pausilip, we need more leaders like him to show us the way. <br /><br />Long live our mother Goa !!! Let us welcome all with open arms as we ourselves are welcomed everywhere. Thats what God has taught us to live in peace and harmony unlike the devils who categorise people based on their caste, creed, religion and states of origin. ViVa!!!James D'Silvanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-47597227471622344682010-11-14T06:18:04.530+00:002010-11-14T06:18:04.530+00:00I was once a strong supporter of Chorchill I along...I was once a strong supporter of Chorchill I along with my supporters even went out of my principles by voting him two times during Lok Sabha election with a sole aim of defeating another big idiot on Goa Politic that is Kamat Hotel Waiter Eduardo Faleiro.<br /><br />But today we realized Chorchill true colour. When he is in power he forgets Goa & Goans interests with a sole purpose of amassing wealth for him and his families. But once out of power he remembers Goans & cry like squealing pig.Goan should now not get fooled by his cry and be ready to give a fitting reply to this king of 39 thieves during coming election. A lesson which he should remember for rest of his life, a lesson that he & his classless families should remember that they can't play any more with dirty games with Goans, with the sentiments of NIG GOENKARS for the welfare of Goa & Goans. CHORCHILL, JOAQUIM AND THEIR DUKRAKAR FAMILIES SHOULD REMEMBER THAT THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED AND THEY WILL GET BURNED THEMSELVES IF THEY EVER AGAIN TRY TO PLAY FIRE WITH GOANS.A True Goannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-85607738298293925182010-11-13T11:48:41.026+00:002010-11-13T11:48:41.026+00:00-Goonda Mauvin and Monserrat the pimp,
Mickky the...-Goonda Mauvin and Monserrat the pimp,<br /><br />Mickky the Molester and Kamat the wimp,<br /><br />Limping Chorchill and Druggie Naik,<br /><br />Joining this band,is Fat Lips with the mike.<br /><br /><br />-Goon on the drum,the pimp will play the guitar,<br /><br />Mickky will blow his aresaphone,the wimp will play the sitar,<br /><br />Chorchill on the Bass and fat lips will sing the songs,<br /><br />The druggie will be in the gutter,cause thats where he belongs.<br /><br />-Their time has come to repent, <br /><br />To better their lives or run,<br /><br />Cause the movement to bring a change,<br /><br />By NIZ GOENKAR through Pausilip has just begun..<br /><br />VIVA NIZ GOENKAR<br />John PereiraUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06197838262221471849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-16591631593230892712010-11-13T09:39:07.743+00:002010-11-13T09:39:07.743+00:00M Braganza the Bodea - Read the article and interv...M Braganza the Bodea - Read the article and interview properly - if you are same Braganza which Bebdo think then I can say you are crumb eater of Corrupt Politicians & if even NG wash you with WASHING POWDER NIRMA - your idiologies will never change,since all your life you survived on dirty and corrupt politicians and now afraid and shivering in pant that with NG entry in Goa politic you will starve of your crumb.A True Goannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-60874745002360070672010-11-13T09:04:09.591+00:002010-11-13T09:04:09.591+00:00To M Braganza:::LOVE & PEACE TO YOU TOO.
Your ...To M Braganza:::LOVE & PEACE TO YOU TOO.<br />Your attack on Goans / Indians not resident in India ,having no farsight or rights to comment,yap or chat is quite ridiculous or plainly an exhibition of your stupidity.<br />You seem like a shortsighted guy.I do not mean your eyesight (but perhaps) ...but your views.<br />Indians / Goans who live in those so called "far away places" are much better placed to comment on affairs that affect them or their families or relations that still exist in India/Goa.<br />Unlike you, these so called faraway Goans /Indians ABROAD, have had the benefit of seeing democratic systems work in other countries,and compare it to how the Indian system works.<br />Sadly you lack this experience.You just have a DAVID COPPERFIELD illusion of it.<br />Let us know what is your gripe or problem with Goans living abroad permanently or temporarily commenting on issues affecting Goa and to an extent, them in someway, indirectly.<br />I personally,have friends and relations in Goa.<br />I read Goan Newspapers.I am aware of what happens in Goa.And so I will use my mind/brains/illusions/logic/comparisons/hopes/<br />aspirations/experiences to the best of my abilities.<br />Please let me know where I should write to you,to seek permission and a licence from you, to comment here or anywhere else.<br />What has made you think, Goans who live abroad are illusionists.Are you not aware many Goans abroad have visited Goa several times.<br />What makes you think that Goans living abroad<br />should not comment/chat/yap.<br />Personally, and I am sure, many other Goans will agree with me that , we do not need your "kindest" permission to comment about Goa or on any other issues worldwide. WE will not be "DISILLUSIONED" with your remark.<br />YOUR comment is that of a "STARK RAVING &BONKERS LOONEY".<br />I UNDERSTAND THE POINT ABOUT CANDITATES STARTING OUT WITH HUMBLE PROMISES and THEN TURNING INTO ROGUES.<br />But I am sure you must agree, that you cannot sit back(as you do) and allow it to continue.<br />Change is never an overnight proccess.Change is an evolution from one form to another.<br />Change should not be restricted by "your" borders or boundaries.<br />Finally, people commenting here are fully "awake" and not in a slumber.You might wish to brush up on your reading skills.<br />I am not sure what is you crazy relevance of David Copperfield, the illusionist to comments here.N.Fernandes (London)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-4547619676498421252010-11-13T07:08:04.525+00:002010-11-13T07:08:04.525+00:00@ Minguel Braganza.... your suggestions are most w...@ Minguel Braganza.... your suggestions are most welcome as you have been an activist in Goa for many years. <br />We can discuss it in private. <br />Mog asundiBebdonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-8805743379137295782010-11-12T23:15:02.693+00:002010-11-12T23:15:02.693+00:00@Bragansza you live in a world of fantasy but your...@Bragansza you live in a world of fantasy but your daurhte or your wife when they are fu...ded they will feel the pain.Iqbalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-8294428654261757772010-11-12T22:32:44.252+00:002010-11-12T22:32:44.252+00:00I live in India and I am talking to the ones who h...I live in India and I am talking to the ones who have the right to speak their mind at the elections. The carefree ones on the blog who yap and chatr and are mostly residing beyond the shores of Indian territories do not make any sense because their lives lack farsightedness, they do not live by the rules of the place we live in. They live in the world of illusions always under the influence of David Copperfield. <br /><br />People, please wake up from your slumber, as always we tend to forget that our candidate/s of yesteryears were just like Pausilip Dourado. They were like a clear cut diamond with all the genuine qualities required of a candidate to represent us Goans, when you got them elected. Once elected regardless, one , two or three years they have the last laugh and not You because, their Godfathers at the Centre evaluate them by their weight and not their senses.Mog Asundi M. Braganzanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-54013194848220509712010-11-12T13:54:06.616+00:002010-11-12T13:54:06.616+00:00NIG GOENKAR - We need a second Revolution.A Revolu...NIG GOENKAR - We need a second Revolution.A Revolution to kick out Congress & BJP criminals from Goa.Only then we can clean criminals and corrupt elements recruited by taking bribes in various State Departments.Right now there are 30 Goa Police Drivers vacancies and the Charas Ravi along with Cow Muth(CM)Digambar & Goa DGP are are selling these posts like hot cakes for a sum of 3 to 5 lakhs each.My neighbour already caught hold of their corrupt agent and after keeping ready 3 lakhs has now applied for the post of Goa Police Drivers.Last chance for Goans - ELECT NIZ GOENKAR - To show right place to corrupt bureaucrates in State Departments that is Aguada Jail.Sarafinonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-37758082931996899212010-11-11T18:10:53.287+00:002010-11-11T18:10:53.287+00:00@Joey, I think you are slightly mistaken and have ...@Joey, I think you are slightly mistaken and have misunderstood what others have said. All they said was that they are and were confused about your comment because one could not make out who you refered. Now it is clear and of course there is nothing wrong in what you have put up. Nobody here has attacked you I can see that. Remember sometimes the comment include answers to two or three comments together.Joe Rebello from Panjimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-82967168803798558022010-11-11T17:15:18.094+00:002010-11-11T17:15:18.094+00:00@ Archie it is not attack, but now they will be pa...@ Archie it is not attack, but now they will be paralyzed from head to toe to see the overwhelming support Nig Goenkar are getting. Thank you our mentor Menino de Valpoi and its founder members for giving us this opportunity to express our feelings and cry our hearts to bring all our Goan people together in one unity. Let us all march in unison to find better place to live in our own motherland. Keep going NG our prayers and support is always there for this good cause.franconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-66831927399675089962010-11-11T16:50:21.170+00:002010-11-11T16:50:21.170+00:00To all my fellow Niz Goenkar's
Neither am I a...To all my fellow Niz Goenkar's<br /><br />Neither am I against anyone nor am I out there to shut this site as many of you have commented. I only happened to read the interview very carefully and pointed out what I thought was something that was not fitting in, something that was going against all the values that Pausilip was talking about. <br /><br />Honestly, I'm harmless, just forget that I even commented on this site. But all the best to Pausilip, he's the best man out there. CheersJoeynoreply@blogger.com