tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post1513573505040887360..comments2023-12-19T15:47:27.153+00:00Comments on Niz Goenkar: NIZ GOENKAR IS NOT OUT FOR FUNDS AND MONEY: A CLARIFICATION TO ALL GOANS AND READERS – by Menino FernandesNiz Goenkarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04084240231647223618noreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-79756084939032137472011-03-22T13:15:44.314+00:002011-03-22T13:15:44.314+00:00Salude Babush, with you all the way! I dreamt of s...Salude Babush, with you all the way! I dreamt of something like this as far as my Memory can think…. And its Finally happening, what we will do in our Life Time, our Children and Generations to come will be Grateful and Thankful to us, we are the Modern Fighters for Goa… Viva Goa…UskoGoenkarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-4304970092030470592011-03-19T21:46:20.899+00:002011-03-19T21:46:20.899+00:00Well said, Mrkgz. I hope we can unite as one. I lo...Well said, Mrkgz. I hope we can unite as one. I love the american saying 'United we Stand, Divided we Fall'. As our dear Sir Menino has said, it was a misunderstanding. I believe Mr P Cruz had good intensions. Unfortunately Money in Goa has been used to keep people down and so a lot of people are sensitive to the issue. But Money can also to used to do good. We have had great leaders before, like our Dr Jack Sequeira, lets give people a chance. If a mistake was made, it is so minor compared to the damage that is being done in Goa every second of the day. I urge our people not to fight with our own, if we believe we are all on the same page. We need many soldiers, if we are to win this fight. If we have issues let us debate them, as our dear Sir Menino has given us this forum to do so, without personally attacking one and other. A lot of us feel we are willing to give up so much for the cause, but then my heart sinks when I see the in-fighting. This is exactly what the traitors in Goa want. They do not want us to succeed………….. To Mrkgz, I encourage you to look into the GRA movement. I believe it is the new hope for OUR Goa. I know a lot of movements have come and gone and have used the people, but we must give this group a chance. At least I can say, it is being run by intelligent people. Who knows, we may even have another Dr Sequeira waiting in the midst.Trevornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-46745588862113246812011-03-19T14:50:40.035+00:002011-03-19T14:50:40.035+00:00My Dear MENINO ..many thanks for this great site!!...My Dear MENINO ..many thanks for this great site!!!!!and great thanks to Mr P.Cruz for brain storming.... .. <br /><br />WE NEED ACTION AND NOT THE OLD HABIT OF GOANS SITTING ON THE FENCE AND LET SOMEBODY ELSE CLEAR THEIR OWN MESS... MY GUILT IS OVER MY HEAD......let us -show some ACTION as I am a NRI..<br /><br />I am ready to volunteer a bus Trip from my side OR any other cause printing.computer office rent,Refreshments, logisticals etc..<br /><br />Anything I can afford for my Goa in a small or big way!!!! from my end Please do mention your requirement next time ..No question asked ??? and I dont need publicity !!!! as Trust is very important in this matter..I trust you my brother.....We must Build Trust within each other..<br /><br />.PLEASE DO SOMETHING AND GET THE BIGGEST FORCE THE NON RESIDENT (GOANS) INDIANS INVOLVED SPECIALLY FROM CANADA AND UK AND GULF.******FACEBOOK PLEASE***** United we fall AND divided we fail and politicians rule us...TIME IS RUNNING OUT..BE QUICK !!! LET THE SLOGAN BE GOANS FOR GOA... to get rid of this uneducated and illerate corrupts rot out of our Goan assembly<br /><br />It will be a good riddance of the bad rubbish......PLEASE (GOANS) AVOID MUD SLINGING AGANIST EACH OTHER CHANGE THIS HABIT PLEASE!!Mrkgznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-47736772502659873172011-02-23T07:33:54.503+00:002011-02-23T07:33:54.503+00:00Dear UskoGoenkar & others: Sorry as I am in a ...Dear UskoGoenkar & others: Sorry as I am in a remote place of Africa at present and the access to net is not good but when its there I will be on the blog. I will be in Goa after 1 month and the preparation and contact are going on also there are people working on day & night. Even Menino is doing woderful things by this blog as the Shiv Sena has "Samnaa", Mauvin Godhino is going to inagurate his own TV channel now, Tarun Bharat for BJP, etc, etc. and we should have our own Newspaper be it Niz Goenkar or something and this hard copies of the article and comments should be published in Goa and handed in every church, this way we can bring an upcoming.<br /><br />Also at present we are working to have a big rally trying to be organised at Azad Maidan by all the NGO's of Goa and all villagers tentatively 15th or 16th March at 02:30 hrs. Here we plan to 20,000 goans on street and may be there are some decision to form a party if all say ready to Go. This meeting is to fight against Goonda Raj and Mafia Raj in Goa. We are trying to arrange buses from all the villages in Goa almost 100 to 150 buses to transport. We have a budget of Rs. one lac towards buses, speakers, stage, chairs, etc. and one friend of mine already sponsored Rs. 50,000 thousand who will give directly to the orgnising committee, it will not go into my habds and that is clear. Here I do not want your money or anyone money, but please attend the meeting and even Niz Goenkar will support it, aslo send mesage to everyone. Exact date I will inform to you on this blog.P Cruznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-88648825680072030152011-02-22T20:34:45.577+00:002011-02-22T20:34:45.577+00:00Dear Brother Menino i would like to commend you an...Dear Brother Menino i would like to commend you and your other NG core team for doing such a great job, at least you got people talking. After reading the above comments of Mr. Cruz and our other Goenkar brothers it made me little sad the way our focus went away from the real Problem. <br />I am very surprised and confused that you are not forming a party to tackle the menace of corruption and corrupt politicians. I understand that you want to awaken the Susegad Goans but without going on the Ground how will you manage that we have just a fraction of our Goans who are aware of NG Blog, <br /><br />How will the Goan people who are not Computer Literate and dont have Internet be made aware?<br />I therefore firmly believe that we have to form something concrete on the ground and go to the Villages and cities of Goa and hold meetings and make people aware of our motives, this is the best way we can make the people of Goa aware.<br /><br />Money is another issue i think, i also understand that without money no party can function, if that is the issue there will be definately a lot of People who are willing to contribute in their small way, these big parties we see today were not built overnight.<br /><br />I really dont know why you backed off from forming a party i would be glad if you could let me know the reason because the people of Goa have no real alternative bow besides CONGRESS and the BJP.<br /><br />If we dont go ahead and form a party we Niz Goenkars will be viewed just like the drunkads who sit in the bars and after 2 pegs start yapping as if they are the Tigers of Goa and as soon as the booze gets over, they come to their senses and go with their tail between their legs.<br /><br />Mog AsundiGoencho Moginoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-48236303591520137582011-02-22T17:58:51.524+00:002011-02-22T17:58:51.524+00:00@P. Cruz, @ Perdro Lopes, Ami Goenkar, lets not ge...@P. Cruz, @ Perdro Lopes, Ami Goenkar, lets not get into petty things here, I’ve read both your comments more then twice, think there is only a clear case of <br />Miscommunication / Misunderstanding here, P. Cruz can’t blame you too cause if you see Perdro’s first line, am sure most of us would react the way you did, but Perdro too has a point and somewhere both of you are on the same line just interpreted differently. Anyways we Niz Goenkars have your backs… <br /><br />P. Cruz, I salute you for your Ideas and Things you are doing, if it’s for GOA, I’m 100% here to back you… Amchem Goem Amkam Zai… Viva!UskoGoenkarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-34734971693821358802011-02-22T15:11:51.040+00:002011-02-22T15:11:51.040+00:00Educating the Goans about exercising their vote fo...Educating the Goans about exercising their vote for the betterment of Goa will not bring in any change. Who are you going to vote in the end? If we do not have competent and educated representatives from within us, how are we going to bring in the necessary changes? We need to have a party as this will show we mean business. It need not be in the name of Niz Goenkar nor endorsed by Menino. This forum will act as the watchdog and and all the people here will question the decisions taken by our elected representatives. We will discuss issues and suggest ideas which will be received in good faith and implemented in due course. Currently decisions are made for us by illeterate juvenile idiots without considering our intentions and our needs. Airport at Mopa, Cricket Stadium in Tivim and many more such decisions were taken without consulting the general public. Our elected representatives will work to sort these issues out and clear the mess created by CHORCHILL,BAILOT KAMAT AND THE REMAINING A@#H!*%SJohn14pereiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-91269871226995556082011-02-22T12:32:33.979+00:002011-02-22T12:32:33.979+00:00I have seen this war of words going on for a long ...I have seen this war of words going on for a long time and there is only one defender who is defending Bebdo as if he is his body guard. Why does it matter to Bebdo when Menino is not interested in collecting funds and making a party? The site is a wonderful gift for Goans and my opinion is that it should not be used for personal gains. In many comments of the different commentators, the feel is unanimous, we need a change and the change could be the education imparted by Niz Goenkar. I live in a village and never came across someone who told me they know Niz Goenkar blog or party. So it is high time that the message of Niz Goenkar to clean up dirty politics should be ultimate rather than the blog becomes a party. You can do it elsewhere when people see Niz Goenkar as a medium of education and not a party.Seby J.X.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-63773259344780771502011-02-22T12:24:18.527+00:002011-02-22T12:24:18.527+00:00I second you, I'm ready to support P. Cruz too...I second you, I'm ready to support P. Cruz too, its the least I can do for our goa. Get your plans in action.Anthony Grnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-3826265027951559902011-02-22T06:44:15.693+00:002011-02-22T06:44:15.693+00:00@P. Cruz, @ Perdro Lopes, Ami Goenkar, lets not ge...@P. Cruz, @ Perdro Lopes, Ami Goenkar, lets not get into petty things here, I’ve read both your comments more then twice, think there is only a clear case of <br />Miscommunication / Misunderstanding here, P. Cruz can’t blame you too cause if you see Perdro’s first line, am sure most of us would react the way you did, but Perdro too has a point and somewhere both of you are on the same line just interpreted differently. Anyways we Niz Goenkars have your backs… <br /><br />P. Cruz, I salute you for your Ideas and Things you are doing, if it’s for GOA, I’m 100% here to back you… Amchem Goem Amkam Zai… Viva!UskoGoenkarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-78938255426830708342011-02-21T19:14:46.401+00:002011-02-21T19:14:46.401+00:00Pedro : Is there any sense in you what passport yo...Pedro : Is there any sense in you what passport you are talking about, who said Portuguese passport holders are no Goans. For your kind information portuguese Passport holders can't vote or hold anything in Goa as per the Indian Rule. My family members have Portuguese Passport and are in portugal as well in England, something must be wrong in your head. Here we talk about something and you talk something else. <br /><br />Any way come with clear ideas....ha....ha...... get a plan how to work, what you want and put it down on the forum, let the people see what you can do for Goa and I will support you if any of your plans are good for Goa. Some people only talk a lotP. Cruznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-992870827678705852011-02-21T18:09:43.826+00:002011-02-21T18:09:43.826+00:00@P. Cruz
Which Passport do you hold? is this the ...@P. Cruz<br /><br />Which Passport do you hold? is this the Passport from the Invaders that let you hold public office in GOA? The Freedole Farters should fight for the Goans who due to their Original Portuguese Passport can't be a part of Goa. What a shame, shame on everyone who consider Goans with Portuguese passport as foreigner in their own land. The Goans who hold Indian Passport in Goa are all traitors and Foreigners.<br /><br />I always ask my self, what would have happened if all Goans would stay in Goa with a Portuguese passport!!, would the Invader Nehru throw all the Goans away from Goa? Would this be allowed by the UNO: By taking the Portuguese Passport no Goans are denouncing GOA but denouncing only the invaders.Perdro Lopeshttp://pulse.yahoo.com/_ERMJS4BCZIZJTZORVSTUQODIVMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-32797909536799180132011-02-21T17:25:37.480+00:002011-02-21T17:25:37.480+00:00Dear John and Franco :
I was in Goa for 4-5 mont...Dear John and Franco : <br /><br />I was in Goa for 4-5 months doing the ground work and I have managed to talk most of the NGO's and like minded people to unite and form a party, most of them have agreed and I am still working on plans. One more things I do not have any intention to become a Politicians and not sure if I will contest, I keep it later. But I have met lot of good people in Goa who are able candidates qualities. I may take a post in the party to see the good Governance in the Party is followed thats for sure. We have planned a stratergy and in progress, at present I am out of India for some reason, but my contact are going on with the people in Goa. As soon as more things are finalised I will put everything on our NIz Goenkar blog.<br /><br />One more thing I can work as a office boy in the Party the post or something does not matter for me, only my dedication to Goa will be there always.P. Cruznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-33324570959693208962011-02-21T16:27:05.476+00:002011-02-21T16:27:05.476+00:00At the moment my heart is literally crying for wha...At the moment my heart is literally crying for what is happening on this blog. The wind of change is blowing somewhere else and the ship is sailing elsewhere. Whatever the reasoning, I hope it will not drift us deeper and deeper in the seven seas in more controversial circumstances where there is no point of return. I hope you all understood my message and pray that we get to see the shore sooner the better. I hope all the misunderstandings are cleared in good spirit. On a second thought I too agree with P. Cruz and few likeminded commentators that to put any plan forward in a prospective way and to set to its right place, we need resource without which no one can survive in this present day. Money talks, money walks and money doesn’t sleep everything got its own value and interest. At present we need good leaders, whether it is Menino or P. Cruz or whoever leads us in the right prospective way irrespective of his being in Goa or elsewhere, so let us unite together to support him or her to achieve our goal.<br /><br />With the present state of circumstances, preachers go on preaching, dreamers will go on dreaming while the politicians will be politicizing each and every issue and looting and the builders of Mega projects will go on destroying our golden Goa without any respite to our mother land. Un-justice governance and corruption is all around us and unrest everywhere, to which we require to remedy it instead of fighting among ourselves. Hope by the present development, we do not dishearten our true feelings for what we are fighting for.<br /><br />I hope our unity, new ideas, diversity and tolerance will take us forward in our new revolution otherwise it will like the song “que sera sera, what will be happen will happen” and with our mouths wide open the outcome subsequently be that we will be lose everything. Please don’t let this happen to all our generous people.franconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-73925296195475011122011-02-21T16:07:19.541+00:002011-02-21T16:07:19.541+00:00United we stand and that is how we have instilled ...United we stand and that is how we have instilled fear in the hearts of the rogues. There is a lot that can be accomplished without getting into politics. In fact by getting into politics there is a bigger chance of becoming like one among the forty thieves. I guess the current bunch must have made tall promises when they were getting into the ring. In reality they make tall promises before every election and we can see how much they have accomplished till date.<br />Having said that we also need to look at the prospect of having new faces represent us and strive to bring Goa to its former glory. Since we have already pitched in our support for Pausilip and Dr. Hubert we have to be in it for all the others as well. We have to support P. Cruz and all the other candidates with good intentions and the drive to work for the betterment of Goa and Goans. They are our hope and we should put our efforts to see these candidates through.<br />Finally candidates are cautioned that when you succeed in the elections work towards the goal you have set yourself. Do not let the claps turn to slaps. Niz Goenkar and all the Goans will be watching you and if you don’t deliver then God save you from the people’s fury. <br /><br />John PereiraJohn14pereiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-13104821474207709192011-02-21T13:32:37.537+00:002011-02-21T13:32:37.537+00:00Dear Menino (Babush) i remember a similar related ...Dear Menino (Babush) i remember a similar related article, discussing where it was said someone was felt betrayed by 2 close friends who he had helped in their time of need, but turned away when you really needed their help, <br />My Fellow Goenkars, Niz Goenkar is not a Charity Organization nor is it there to make Money, Money when mixed with everything else is Evil, but Money still has its purpose and use. We are all here, because we have a Common Cause, that one Goal in our lifetime that will make Goa, the way we always dreamt it to be, to Make Goa belong to the True Goans and Goa for Goans and Goans for Goa, and eradicate Corruptions! <br /><br />But we also have to look at the brighter side, certain things do cost money as well, things don’t happen for Free, we Goans have to come out of this Mentality, that whenever someone is doing something, Tou Poix kuru sodta (He’s Trying to Make Money) mentality, rather stand united and fight the cause! <br />But me as a Niz Goenkar, if I have to make a Small Contribution to the Cause, as today nothing comes Free and I know that, I Gladly and Proudly will do!UskoGoenkarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-64150600885009293112011-02-21T09:11:09.843+00:002011-02-21T09:11:09.843+00:00@Gurudas:Yes we can unite I will be the first one ...@Gurudas:Yes we can unite I will be the first one who will do that. for unity we have to be selfless and do all the things in right way, also more cordination should be the main part, more people have to be brough into confidence, listen to all the people and then take a decision and the main important thing is not to be selfish.P. Cruznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-24927550175269953162011-02-21T03:27:12.309+00:002011-02-21T03:27:12.309+00:00The comments have passed well over half a century....The comments have passed well over half a century. But one question to all can we GOANS unite to save Goa from the clutches of our corrupt Ministers?Gurudas Lotlikar Margao.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-79933435332740239912011-02-20T19:09:18.276+00:002011-02-20T19:09:18.276+00:00Dear Sandesh yes publicity should be there and its...Dear Sandesh yes publicity should be there and its nice to have banners, etc that is the way how to go for it. But this banners will not last long once the rally is done the banners will be gone. I am also a Nizgoenkar its not that I am an outsider but we should create an impact in the Goans heart and change them, there should be some stratergy how to fight if we do not want a party. I know my self the people who hold the Banner will not come for second time to hold it again, unless he is core Nizgoenkar, I have been in this situation.One small story which was told in our Church..... There was a priest in one church and very much devoted, he had 6 more priest who were loyal to him and worked day night to get all the people realise that God is above all things. They all started preaching for long time and after some years they had 90% of the population obeying to the word of God. Now all the 7 priest realised that the work is done and they hold a big thanksgiving mass in the church compound. 6 of the main priest were present and one of the priest was missing. They were wodering why the priest was missing for the mass. The people gathered in large numbers more then 20,000 and the main priest started the mass, the mass was going and the preaching was going very well. Suddenly one masked man came with AK 47 rifle and lot of ammunition on the stage, he went on the stage and stop the prist preaching,took the Mic and said " people those who want their life go away right now or I will fire bullets in your body and those who support the 7 Priest can stay behind and take my bullets in the heart". Hearing this all the people started running away, only the 6 priest stayed and 5-10 people stayed to take the bullets. When all the unfaithfull are gone the Mask men removed his mask, he was the missing priest and said to the head Priest " The unfaithfull has gone and the faithful are here, so start preaching". This is what happened in our blog when Bebdo put up the article, the main priest was Menino and the 6 priest were his core members and the missing priest was Bebdo. Atleast the masked man had seperated the faithful and unfaithful!P. Cruznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-53715214204127539842011-02-20T14:36:37.776+00:002011-02-20T14:36:37.776+00:00@ Shyam Sawant: Please do not talk about religion....@ Shyam Sawant: Please do not talk about religion. All Goans Hindus, Muslim, Christian are same, there is no difference in it. You are going out of the topic, talk about this topic please. And if you have any problem please contact me in person and my mail ID is with Menino if you want you can have it. I will clarify everything to you, if you want to know the truth. And I have lot of affection to Menino and I will always support him for good cause, but I also have my own principles which I cannot compromise.<br /><br />Mog AssundiP. Cruznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-66768705439544763882011-02-20T14:13:13.758+00:002011-02-20T14:13:13.758+00:00I feel that his forum should not be used to fight ...I feel that his forum should not be used to fight personal differences, respect all for the cause of Goa.Satunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-20460808884475173432011-02-20T13:39:57.900+00:002011-02-20T13:39:57.900+00:00@ Shyam Sawant: Why you want to lit some fire? all...@ Shyam Sawant: Why you want to lit some fire? all details of Menino are on the blog. I did not try to expose his details, if he has any complain he could have called me or send me mail. Please do not fall in between us , I respect you and if Menino has any complains he wuld have blocked my comments and replied me back. And I want all Goans should fight for our cause including the people having Portuguese passport. Please correct yourself, I have no any intention to expose Menino.P. Cruznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-1928198999756029552011-02-20T13:05:29.311+00:002011-02-20T13:05:29.311+00:00Menino do not worry because of a few people, we ar...Menino do not worry because of a few people, we are all with you and our support will now be more stronger than ever. I have been a regular commentator here on the site and will always be. I will never leave this site at any cost. I say VIVA NIZ GOENKARJoe Rebellonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-48290227943770798542011-02-20T13:02:38.362+00:002011-02-20T13:02:38.362+00:00I spoke to Mr. Menino as we both are in UK it was ...I spoke to Mr. Menino as we both are in UK it was a long chat. He has explained to me a lot of fact evolving around and I could say that based on our talk that those who plan to betray the cause of Niz Goenkar should only dream about it. And plus reading all the comments above I have come to know what kind of some people are who try to fool the sincere ones. We being Hindus of Goan origin are in full support of Niz Goenkar and Mr. Menino. It is shameful that Mr. P. Cruz is trying to expose the whereabouts of Mr. Menino by exposing his personal information that he is holding Portuguese Passport or citizenship. Let me tell you Mr. P. Cruz I am also holding Portuguese Passport and citizenship but that does not deter me from fighting for Goa through this blog. And I know that Niz Goenkar has made a lot of change in Goa. The politicians and the police are caught in a tight situations due to Niz Goenkar.Shyam Sawantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5233044294104651665.post-27165111866367638672011-02-20T11:35:35.657+00:002011-02-20T11:35:35.657+00:00Thanks Menino and I appreciate all your efforts,we...Thanks Menino and I appreciate all your efforts,we require a change and thats how I will change with my writings and I promise to you that I will be the same as I am at present, no change only the change will be my age. I know your blessing is always with me, Nisha, Swati..... I Require your blessing and also the people like minded us, if I suceed I will be happy and not suceed I will be little happy cause I tried my best to do it in my wayP. Cruznoreply@blogger.com